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Marriage Vicky and Stefaan

December 8th, 2008

http://www.photob.be/series/vsmar.jpg

I told myself that I'll post more series on marriage, it is quite difficult for me to make a choice between post 10 good images that will not be entirely representative of a story over 18 hours and offer more than 100 images.

It is certain that by offering a certain number of images are minimized in the flood. plus représentative, je reste attentifs a vos commentaires donc n'hésitez pas ! Maybe I should offer 20 images by posting them directly in the article and view the rest for those wishing to take a look at a more representative series, I remain attentive to your comments so feel free!

. Vicky and Stefaan contacted me in June to cover their wedding on Saturday, December 6, small meeting around a cocktail early November to set everyone's expectations and getting to know. est très important pour moi, il m'est déjà arrivé de refuser de couvrir un mariage sachant que je pourrais pas rencontrer les attentes du couple. I repeat myself but this type of meeting is very important to me, I've ever refuse to cover a wedding knowing that I could not meet the expectations of the couple.

computrekker, un sac pour les softboxes et deux pieds de studio. Saturday morning so I left towards the rolling CompuTrekker with cork, a bag for softboxes and two feet of studio. As in my previous marriage I have given up the slingshot for the large bag and a belt at Lowepro.

Once the bag is placed I can move with two objots in the belt and a lens mounted on the housing. (The 50mm on the case, the 12 / 24th and 85 in the belt).

For equipment as I announced in my previous article I gave the 80/200 in the closet, it does not fit my way of working. The vast majority of my images on this marriage were made ​​in 50mm, I used the 85 when the 50mm would not allow myself to get closer (to Mass). As usual the flash remained quietly in the bag during the day.

I always look for a replacement for my 12/24 DX Tokina, the 14/24 is clearly exceptional, probably one of the finest optical produced by Nikon, but its weight and size mean that I look more like a 14mm fixed-hand.

The key for me, what will make a good picture outside of the technical aspect, is the contact, it is through him that we will carry out interesting portraits. I prefer an image or framing and light are less relevant to a technically perfect picture but it does not feel this relationship of trust with the photographer.

Stefaan the day with Vicky was at once exciting, touching and exciting. Spend a full day, be privileged witness, or heart of the event, all of their moments of stress, happiness was really motivating photographically speaking!

The ringflash

I just played with homemade ringflash, but without much conviction, at least the good people are amused to see me disembark with a box of chocolates "quality street" around my goal.

We realize that the light comes from everywhere, there are no shadows in the face, the shadow around the subject, is the lil side ring in the eye, not big enough in my taste, I'll just work with to see if it can réelement myself useful.

The portable studio

Given the popularity of the studio in my latest covers, I had proposed Stefaan Vicky. Since the last time it was a real success, people were super cool, as I see AC as an attraction (like a clown who would place except here I'm the clown), ca creates the contact, which would be useful later for photos of parties and this gives the final images strong enough.

I had before marriage is a little tracking to see what kind of background that I could use the studio when the background does not please me I'm off on an infinite neutral images with b / w in this case j ' I decide to work with the background that really appealed to me.

The post processing

As usual, I adjust the white balance, contrast and saturation in Capture One V4 with exports in jpeg for the web, I do not reframe my images, and work on images in Photoshop is unthinkable (pass 5 for 700 minutes per photo images is iréalisable)

52 Responses to "Marriage Vicky and Stefaan"

  1. Eddy Says:

    Benjamin Good evening! You have actually done very quickly for the treatment of these photos! I can not be as effective with C1. I notice also that you post several images at once .. is identical to the processing faster? Or just to compare?

    On the ring flash, sounds a bit small ring effect in the eye ... but there is still something interesting in the ring flash I think. It can be worth the shot persevere.

    For the wedding pictures, as usual not much to complain about. Apart from two questions. Photos with vignetting is original? (In first photo)
    And lack of EXIF ​​data, it is new or I missed an episode?
    I was amazed by your photos to church, you could still be very close to them.

    Oh, and for the studio, I am delighted that you have revived the idea, because it is a real plus in my opinion!

    Thank you for the photos anyway, really nice to see. And how quickly the treatment!

  2. Benjamin | photob Says:

    Good evening Eddy

    Yep, if the photos are good are not much to do and it goes fast enough to display multiple pictures, it's just to look pretty for the capture : Grin:

    Vignetting is original, the "benefit" of having a full-frame and 50 mm for the EXIF ​​data, it is not done on purpose, I'll probably keep them for reexport.

    For photos to mass, I'm moving into ninja mode ;)

  3. Shooter Says:

    We will not beat around the bush, it's a superb job, there is emotion, the aesthetic side is perfect, I will divorce soon and I'll call you : Grin:

  4. Eddy Says:

    Then a sacred ninja! Having been to a wedding this summer, I see the difference immediately!

    Not feel it as my 50mm sticker ... just to test.

    The only catch level treatment for me is the white balance. Having this (bad?) Used to leave my D700 BdB self, sometimes it's a bit too hot (yellow). But precisely by fitting the BdB too, I think it gives cool pictures that do not make the atmosphere of the time (especially indoors and artificial lighting)
    So I rule by serial post treatment, choosing an intermediate temperature between the BdB perfect and original.
    You meet the same kind of situation?

  5. alain Says:

    Hello Benjamin,

    Superb wedding coverage, very very far from what we can offer usually it is a habit for you but it still deserves to be highlighted. : Lol:

    Here we have a beautiful array of techniques that allow for increased original images, while giving an overall impression very good. Far from being locked into a single technique, each technique is used and all covers the subject well, dressing (one of my favorite moments when I cover a wedding - this is very rare and I'm pretty poor - it's very intimate, not to damage as the groom in general) until the evening. Complicity with your subjects is, that's very human images, it is superb. : Cool:

    Technical side not much to complain about, balance, framing and opening neat as usual. I'm not a big fan of face ringflash, which gives the face a little yogurt, and the studio for some faces are a bit dark (eg the woman in the photo on this page, or the 2912 is shouting ), but given the conditions it is quite normal that you lug around ten lamps and not that you not take twenty minutes per image. For the ring finger injury that keeps the book in hand, it has not left you many choices for framing - it's a personal moment that I hesitate to work two minutes with the bride and groom, just to be sure it will be visible (without telling them what he should do at this point).

    Obviously you probably feel like you repeat the technical side, framing etc. but as I have already told you what matters most is the final product and it is excellent, no doubt that these newlyweds were very well chosen. : Smile:

    Incidentally I noticed that you started cutting head (photo of the necklace of the groom), obviously I love, continues : Mrgreen:
    Also a big thank you to the beta profiles for ACR, since I am with the skin tones are much better, this is particularly visible in sumo and dancers, a pleasure, I have a little more set back, it's good when you open the RAW, see my last sumo:
    http://www.alaindavreux.com/index.php?page=3-005-800-1

    I hope this kind of activity you will support your other photographic projects as it should ... I hope your ideas bore fruit - take your time.

    Good luck

    Alain

  6. Fred Says:

    As always, the great work. It's energetic, fresh and funny. In short, I'm a fan!
    An autograph?! : Wink:

  7. delphine Says:

    Good job!!
    I like those on the street, I would have liked to see more :)
    I love the background you've found the photobooth!
    Funky!

    18 hours of coverage. You're a superhero, once again!

  8. Thomas Says:

    Again a very nice set ... :!:

    You work always spot on IL + your portraits?

    And on it, how you doing?
    http://www.photob.be/series/svmar/BEN_1663.jpg

  9. Tom Says:

    Hello, chicken! :)

    This series sounds less technical than others, but gives off a lot more warmth!
    You let go more to the point ...

    I really love this series! : D
    There is a twist ... Probably due to your final thoughts.
    I find "simple" but perfect. The click at the right time, whatever.

    In short, we'll talk this week ..
    I have to buy a toy! : Razz:

    A +
    Tom

  10. Anthony Says:

    Hello,
    Magnique shooting, as usual. it's always a pleasure to browse your series.

    Just a little suggestion, but not on your photo gallery. Maybe you should try limiting exports in an 700maxi height only your photos. All photos have the same size and drag horizontally over the album would appear the "white" under test pictures in landscape mode.

    This is only a suggestion ;)

    + + +

  11. The Zla Says:

    Like everyone else, I find your work always good, the contribution of the studio within marriage is undeniable, something out of the lot to your reports ...

    The photo of the couple dancing under the confetti is a great image and summarized the day beautifully!

  12. Benjamin | photob Says:

    Shooter: thank you!

    Eddy: When I encounter difficulties in terms of white balance I always pass in hand, the raw gives the illusion that we can remake a balance afterwards, it's true but it does not happen without losses (noise and brightness are affected).

    An example:

    In this picture the balance offered by car was too hot for my taste, it was a nice mix of natural light coming from the right with an artificial light hot enough. So I paid my balance in order to have these pretty blue tones present.

    Alain: Thanks for this long comment!

    I love the dress, you feel the stress mounting, we laugh with the bride to unwind, the backstage side interests me as much as marriage

    Technical side, the thing is that I started to see my equipment well in hand and I know well the course of marriage, so really more stress on the horizon that allows me to let go of the rest and enjoy!

    The cutting head I started to really love! Anyway happy to have you discuss the ACR profiles! great shot and the passage

    Fred: Thank msieur!

    delphine: I too would have liked a picture to explain why it has not done more images.

    ps: Yes I know it's really beautiful with you on the other side of the earth ;)

    Thomas: Mainly with matrix corrections expo or simply manual :)

    Tom: Hi Msieur! thank you for the comment! then you fell for the Full Frame :)

    Anthony: Yep, that's how I was doing before, the fact is that I end up with images too large and too heavy, you should know that the blog is about 60 gigabytes of transfers per month and I have to pay for exceeding bandwidth ;)

    LeZla: Yep, the top expression is an appropriate summary of the day I also love the blurred version of the couple dancing!

  13. Anthony Says:

    Oh yes indeed, unfortunate that the development of these great shots must undergo increased site traffic.

    Many hosting offers over 100go/mois see not far from 1000go/mois for a few euros monthly (1and1).

    But I think you have already studied the issue. This is not a criticism at all and it will not prevent me to continue to consult your site ;-)

  14. Eric Says:

    I'm not going back on the quality of your pictures, everything has been said! By cons to reverse your thinking in intro, I think your wedding galleries (and reporting in general) would benefit from tighter. 10 very good pictures leave a greater impression than 100 photos including 10 very good, I think we ended up tired. This is the case for me on this series, there are some beautiful images and then many others which although successful tehcniquement we especially value for the couple and those present. You can see it can be a bit like a job for an exhibition, what. Force on the editing for better value to your work. That means making choices in his own pictures, which sometimes is not easy ...

    friendly

  15. Benjamin | photob Says:

    Anthony: Yep I note :)

    Eric: I agree with you, it is certain that when I have time to work on a portfolio of marriage I would be super restrictive, here in fact I like to share the work as a whole share tips with visitors. Now I agree it's probably too much!

    For future reports I will work with images directly into the post, a drastic selection and offer the rest related :)

  16. Ksh Says:

    Hi Ben,

    Indeed, as said before, it breathes freshness and above all human contact. The portraits are beautiful, and you passed with flying colors the giving of people want to get involved and participate in your pictures. You're not a photographer, you are also a great facilitator of crowds.

    As for images, the majority are very good for the studio, I like less than your previous marriage, simply because I find it less careful, certainly in the words of Tom, the expressions are more fun, of course but the majority of the studio we see this kind of trolley on the left (carriage of the cake?), but if I ignored it, it's a good job.
    To nitpick, and always on the studio, I find again the lighting a little less clean than the last time, too many shadows for my taste, but that's its charm : Mrgreen:

    Another small issue rather special, you will respond if you are the envy.
    Of all the weddings you've covered, I have the distinct impression that the budget was quite high, in most cases marriage seems very "chic". Maybe because you do we propose that marriages "classes" that covers you, or simply because you do not accept the marriage a little more "modest"?
    Maybe is there a difference between France and Belgium, or perhaps it is simply because your fame allow yourself to "select" more or less weddings that you decide to cover, but I am impressed each time, the interiors, cars etc. ...
    This is not a criticism, I hope you will be understood, I would just like to know as you proceed :)

    Cheers

  17. ArnO_62 Says:

    Superb story again.
    A comment that spring, and it's also the feeling that I had: a very human story.
    I know how you do to put people at ease and "direct" way, but it gives an excellent result! Including the "studio", they have fun and it shows. You did not even look like you're worrying about the technique. TOP.

    More strongly!

  18. Benjamin | photob Says:

    Hello Ksh

    Yep, there is the trolley, the thing is, once in action, you have to react very quickly move the two sources, you frameworks for 3 people and then there is someone who has become embedded in the frame, so you and back to shoot and so I started the studio after 15 hours in pictures so ca looks can be a hair from time to time.

    For me the most is the expression and attitude, it was a lot of studio pictures in this series I have posted a small part :) .

    Now may be the album that I will reframe some :)

    To your second question, I do not post all my stories, my choice is only random :) , I try and adapt according to the budget, for me it is not the budget or place that will influence the image quality, but the relationship and the openness of the people :) as fairly speaking for me, the marriage of Fatima and Gabriel or was held at home :)

    http://www.photob.be/2008/06/22/mariage-fatima-gabriel/

  19. Jeje the Road Says:

    Oh it's been a while since you had not posted on your site.

    I agree with previous comments: less smooth (in ref forum HFR) but more human, more simple.
    I hang by against the less portable studio, but I think mostly it just matters that were perhaps a little less imaginative and have dropped a little less (this is what came out of the picture at least for me) .

    Anyway very nice set once again. Bravo : Smile:

  20. Ksh Says:

    Ben thank you for your answer

  21. ph @ Zer Says:

    Ben, I'm not married, but at the sight of your photos, I happen to get married just for you to do our photos! ;-)
    Once again, I love what you do bcp (ca getting boring even to repeat the same thing ;-) !)

  22. ph @ Zer Says:

    hmm ... it should read: "... I would come to marry me ..." of course! :??:

  23. delphine Says:

    Weather Re: LOL - I tend to forget details like that ...

  24. Marcel Lucas Says:

    Benjamin Hello, hello everyone!
    As usual, it's a great job ...
    It is full of freshness and vitality!
    About the data transfer, it is unlimited on the hosting site "www.one.com" ...

  25. Roman Lhuissier Says:

    Hi Ben, nice set!
    Regarding the presentation of pictures, I take personal best in a series for the post in the photoblog and the rest in the series ... The lazy or those who do not have the time and drink the 'best juice, fruit, and if they are so minded watching the latest series in its entirety, which is not bad IMHO. The best shots are less well embedded and the opportunity to see them again in the full set can reproduce the general atmosphere less noticeable in the dixaine or twenty of the best pictures!
    Again this is what I do but in a different format (pixelpost) which leaves me less room for text ... You should see, but I'm here for!
    And then it may also restrict traffic, while some are content with the best shots ...

    A + on the bus!

  26. Krysalia Says:

    regarding "how many pictures show," I think your favorite 10 or 20 it is more than enough, because they are diluted with much more (much-luent) between them.
    What we watch, it's not reportage wedding machine and stuff, but how you, you've managed, so eventually no matter that we proposed that you be as comprehensive as what you could their show them. by cons in terms of technical reports, etc., with a score of pictures you can really select the best that you took that day (I think eh : Mrgreen: )

    About your host, so if you can pass at infomaniak: this is € 120 per month of course, but in unlimited traffic and unlimited hits, so more quota overruns. you might as well show us everything you want without worrying traffic generated : Wink:

    Lolo and I are thinking of placing our new blog above, and we must know an existing site is entitled to 10 free months for the first year for home I had time to test the stuff. it is taken : Grin:

  27. Marcel Lucas Says:

    Hello!
    Krysalia,
    accommodation at "infomaniak", it not only made good sense overcharged € 120 per year?
    It would still be ten times more than in "one.com", also with unlimited traffic.

  28. Krysalia Says:

    : Mrgreen: erf! yes, of course, is € 120 per YEAR :!:

    thank you to overcome my distraction : Oops:

  29. Krysalia Says:

    I looked at one.com, it's not really unlimited Far from it in their FAQ: "A download site is a site where every click to the effect of producing more than 1 MB of speed."

    a photo gallery with 25 pictures of 50kb (which is low for the 800 × 600) by category, and bam, you fall out of their so-called "unlimited" :??:

    if it's not that they mean, in this case I find them a little lightly faq : Grin:

  30. f_pera Says:

    Tt time you work without a flash and then open your f-stops require a background ...

    loss of depth of field does not interfere with your clients?

    I mean the one that was more or less one meter of your subject to 1.8, you will never net the eyes ..

    For wedding photos is a bit sad when mm ..
    Ok I'm a bit fussy about sharpness but the report when it is mm / /

  31. squamous Says:

    hello,

    small issue with what gear did you do your portable studio? with cobras?

    thank you?

  32. Olivier Says:

    "A download site is a site where every click to the effect of producing more than 1 MB of throughput."

    or each click, each, by 1000 ko/1Mo. which corresponds to "one click" to 20 images of 50 kb of simultaneously open.

    If you count from 150 to 300 kb with 800 × 600, it is still three times less than the limit per click ...

    ...

  33. Benjamin | photob Says:

    Marcel Lucas thank you!

    Roman Lhuissier, Krysalia: You are right, will be applicable for the next pictures :)

    f_pera: It is primarily an aesthetic decision taken before a technical constraint. Now for me it notes and the taste of each AC is hardly debatable ;)

    squamous: With

  34. JP Says:

    Hello,
    Congratulations, great pictures, full of life, we're really in marriage, I really like.
    I love the photos without flash, and as you say this is a taste of history! However, it is still more enjoyable for the guests to be photographed without "Flashouille" ... : Cool:

    Good luck
    If you're passing through Lyon, let us know the best reception you'll be booked.

    JP

  35. Amelie Says:

    Hello Benjamin,

    Still a great story! I love your photos and your attitude. I join JP: If you're passing through Lyon, do (I do not really know who this "we" but I went to join) sign and there will welcome you to the world :)

    Amelie

  36. gagnon guy Says:

    Always a real pleasure to discover your new pictures. You should provide training :) You'd be inundated with students :)

    I'm still captivated by the richness and magic of your pictures that emerge. The picture, you have this in "blood". This is obvious.

    guy

  37. Krysalia Says:

    Olivier> what you say works only in the case of a gallery or it displays each photo after another, click by click. If you load a page with 25 photos above, with a single click on the initial link, you can load more than 1mb on click very easily. And what about a site that is unlimited and that imposes such a limit in the era of video and large blogs?
    Infomaniak offers directly to serve streaming content (as long as you owned of course). for those interested in this feature (in my case), a limit of 1MB, mostly explained with as much blur, it becomes rhédibitoire.

  38. Olivier Says:

    Happy New Year, ;)

  39. alain Says:

    nice the new version, I'm just redoing my website, you must believe that it is the season :)

    my screws you can ease some of your page, eg the list of latest news and the latest comments in the slide (not occupying 100% of the width of my house, damage) are not necessarily useful as they are listed below :)

    and then the logo has a default display home : Smile:

    I return to my good layout, for me it will be white : Mrgreen:

    and happy new year for sure!

    alain

  40. Benjamin | photob Says:

    Oliver: Thank you, you have too!

    alain: Yep, I think, I took advantage of being cut off internet for 2 weeks to see my little one template, the width is always the problem of different resolution, here I try to offer some thing that happens everywhere.

    What is wrong with the logo?

  41. alain Says:

    after checking for the logo is only one default firefox (latest version 3.0.5) not in IE, the logo appears correctly if the window is small but when I expanded the window (I'm wide in 1440) that pixelated, I've put a catch here:
    http://alaindavreux.com/photography/temp/benjamin.jpg

  42. OlivierH Says:

    Hello,

    This is the first time I post on your blog and yet I consult regularly.

    Already, I present my best wishes for happiness and success for 2009.

    If not for this series, I think it is very similar to what you usually do with a little more "fishing", and where you will see a stagnation of your work, I just found your "paw" artistic. So that the first glance we recognize your work. This is something quite complicated to obtain.

    Personally, I think you really a gift for the picture "people", you had a good (even very good) contact with people and you get almost always poses and / or attitudes very photogenic.

    In short, I love what you do, your blog is the first of my favorites by the quality of your work and your more technical articles.

    Thank you for your work, wishing you a 2009 full and as rich as 2008

    Olivier,

  43. Olivier Says:

    Krisalia, it would make a site with pages super heavy, which boufferait the bandwidth of the host and vistors for nothing ...

    Parcontre, can I give statitisques a month that works well, even with me being one since 2005.

    Total Hits 159865
    Total Files 124127
    Total Pages 15816
    Total Visits 3944
    Transfered KBytes 5108839
    Total Hosts 1681
    avg max
    Hits per Day 5156 13806 (min / max)
    Files per Day 4004 10598
    Pages per Day 510 1441
    Visits per Day 127 167
    Transfered Kbytes per Day 164801 480190
    Time per visit 0:02:11 -
    Pages per visit 4.01 -
    Duration 0:00:35 per page -
    Cache Hit Ratio 20.63% -

    It would be nice to have other stats, other host, here are the stats at their highest ...
    it gives an idea of ​​what it eats you for bandwidth ...

  44. jean-luc Says:

    hello benjamin, good year 2009, the best of things.

    related, a family resemblance, perhaps you know ...?

    http://www.fabricantdimages.com/

    http://www.jeancharleshorry.com/Galerie_08/galerie_08.html

    for me you are on the right track, but you know it.

  45. Gilles C Says:

    I found your site via the forum hardware.fr, I was looking for tips for wedding photos.
    I must admit that you got me totally discouraged : Mrgreen: , Your photos are superb, your shots perfectly fine thoughts, post processing is spot on (I do not know how you do it for color so natural and beautiful ... what's the secret?)
    In short I am amazed, a little discouraged, I have work!

    Gilles

  46. Jibé Says:

    hello benjamin,

    I try, I try but I can not find article explains where you mount your homemade ringflash, I would like to know how you've made, and also see how it looks.

    If not as usual ', tears all your work! equipped with a Canon EOS 400D and several targets entry-level I can not make a quarter to half of what you realize. And it's starting to annoy me!!

    simply the best.

    @ +

    Jibé

  47. Benjamin | photob Says:

    Jean-Luc: Thanks! I did not know

    Gilles C: msieur Thank you!

    jibe: I am not yet an article on the subject is in preparation :)

  48. Guy Vander Heyden Says:

    Very interesting. The comments also. Thank you very much.

  49. stephanie Says:

    Hi Benjamin,

    As usual, very nice set. Bravo : Cool:
    Une petite question technique pour eclairer ma lanterne: Comment fais tu pour que ton sujet reste net malgré des vitesses lentes tel que 1/5 voir 1 sec ? J'ai bien lu dans ton post que c'est le flash qui fige et la longue pose est la pour capturer l'ambiance, mais moi mes sujets sont tjs un peu flous à ces vitesses là!

    Thank you

    Steph

  50. Ben|photob Says:

    Hello Stephanie,

    Le premier point a identifier est le type de flou:

    Si le sujet est flou cela peut provenir d'un flou de mise ou point ou de profondeur de champs trop faible.

    Si la mise au point est bonne mais que l'on se retrouve devant un flou de bougé.

    Pour ma part je penche pour un flou du a trop de lumière parasite sur le sujet, il faut donc s'assurer que le sujet n'est pas éclairé par une autre source sinon effectivement le flash fige mais les lumière parasites vont créer des images fantomes :)

  51. stephanie Says:

    Merci, ca m'aide beaucoup! Il s'agissait bien d'un flou du à des lumières parasites!! : Smile:: Smile:

    Dis au fait, utilises -tu un réflecteur pour tes portrait du couple? Pour la photo ou la mariée est dans la chambre avec ses amies, et celle de la maman qui fait un discours à table, tu as utilisé un diffuseur? Ou tu dirigeais le flash au plafond? Je débute en photographie au flash, donc je ne m'y connais pas encore beaucoup

    Merci pour tout ce que tu partages et pour ces belles photos : Wink:

    Stephanie

  52. Thomas Says:

    Bonjour Benjamin. Pourrais-tu m'expliquer ta façon de procéder lorsque tu prends ce genre de portrait; Te sers tu du collimateur centrale ou utilise tu plutôt les collimateurs décentrés. Travailles tu plutôt en pondéré ou le plus souvent en matricielle. Mémorise tu l'expo au déclenchement? Je cherche une façon de faire simple…je me perds un peu dans le côté technique au détriment du côté humain que l'on ressent fort dans tes photos. Si ce genre de messages t'importune, tu n'es absolument pas obligé de répondre : Grin: Je comprendrai.

    En tous cas, félicitation pour tes clichés, toutes tes séries sont très bien réalisées…

    Le style reportage (grèves, manifs,là où les gens ont des revendications) ne t'intéresse pas, y as tu déjà pensé? Je suis certain que ton côté proche des gens rendrait de très bon reportage.

    Bien à toi,
    Thom.

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