65 Responses to "Lightroom and the respect of colors"

1. Naime Jonathan Says:
   January 9th, 2008 at 11:50

   Hi Benjamin,

   I had already noticed that my pictures tend to turn to the yellow / orange instead of red in warm colors and skin tones, but I did not get beyond thinking it was me, seeing your article I understand why.

   I use Lightroom as a library only (I've noticed this dominance yellow) and I open my NEF directly in CS3 with Camera Raw and the same conclusion.

   Thank you for sharing with us your tests, given the above example, it is obvious!

2. ksh Says:
   January 9th, 2008 at 11:59

   Hi Ben,

   The photo of the dog is flagrant, it is true that it is also unfortunate that the flowing software that LR is not well calibrated in the rendering of tones, but say it is "unusable" is a bit much for me .
   I develop in ACR when I is not mass produced, and I am quite happy with the record, I think to make this observation must already have some experience, which are not my case.

   Thank you for sharing with us this.

   See you soon

3. Simon Says:
   January 10th, 2008 at 24:08

   It's been three months I feel like pictures yellow permanently, I thought it was from my first relfex the nikon D80, I just tried to open images with the same Bible and this has have anything! Finally, accurate color! Verily I have trouble understanding what is happening with Lightroom

4. phil Says:
   January 10th, 2008 at 24:24

   For the photo of the dog, apart from the color difference, I still feel there is a difference in contrast is not it?

5. Benjamin | photob Says:
   January 10th, 2008 at 12:30

   phil, yes it is possible I have no way to quantify a bilateral contrast settings

6. jluc Says:
   January 10th, 2008 at 24:16

   as Colorblind, I do not see much difference ...

7. samphoto Says:
   January 10th, 2008 at 5:15

   I made the same reflection at the output of Lightroom that is anything but suitable for people who make the portrait.

   I see bloom on canvas portraits of oranges, orange sunsets, in short everything becomes orange and nobody seems to care ...

8. MrSoul Says:
   January 10th, 2008 at 5:26

   I myself have the same problem, but there are even more striking, highly saturated colors, or fluorescent absolutely does not emerge, as if the top of the dynamics of these colors fell into nothingness.
   A small simple test, a rainy day, shooting a red light, there is no more degraded at the lamp, or try to shoot ultra violet lights (Tower Tour Exaltis (Mazars) to defense), ultra violet colors disappear completely.

   That said, I found the problem much more than capture of Photoshop (although I feel that this is exactly the same engine!).

9. Manunu Says:
   January 10th, 2008 at 8:22

   The color treatment is terribly degraded between my and my E-500 E-510 in CAB. I put this issue on the back of their new sensor with Olympus LiveMOS. After reading your article I install Olympus Master and there I found the color ... Thanks for the article.

10. JohnD Says:
    January 10th, 2008 at 9:10

    Regarding the calibration script, I find that of Rags more comprehensive and flexible. It allows to use different types of charters and allow the crop and resize, speeding up the procedure. In the end, it offers an image of the charter including patches with the reference values ​​as a comparison.

    http://www.rags-int-inc.com/PhotoTechStuff/ColorCalibration/

    After calibration, the record should be colorimetrically neutral. That is to say that the colors of the charter should be almost identical (100% is not possible) to the baseline.

    On the other hand, if the charter is more neutral in Capture One, Capture NX or others, then it is indeed, one of them is correct and therefore LR has a problem.

    Typically, looking at the charter in NX, we see that it fits the colorimetry and, depending on the mode. The charter does not look like photographed to the charter is genuine. The aim here is to make the look more pleasant. It is not necessarily more correct than Lightroom.

    The whole game is how to adapt the HSL RS, after calibration, to obtain the desired rendering (look like Capture One, NX, ...). I recognize that it is cotton. Certainly teams or Nikon Phase One are more honed to the task. It is a pity that Adobe does not offer presets also more flattering and more neutral version.

11. pixel Says:
    January 11th, 2008 at 4:23

    Are your screens are wide gamut and calibrated correctly? I noticed that the warm tones and flesh were particularly good in Adobe RGB from lightroom on an Eizo calibrated while they appeared somewhat desaturated yellow on a normal LCD.

    I think Lightroom is simply developed to give its full potential with professional equipment unaffordable

12. Seb Says:
    January 11th, 2008 at 5:01

    I did some comparison between DPP and LR with my 5D and I can not find gross differences ... IF you use DPP made neutral or loyal ... Because the standard mode privileged saturation and color ... red ... So, a Check to see

13. Seb Says:
    January 11th, 2008 at 5:04

    flutes, colored with an s

14. Tom Says:
    January 11th, 2008 at 24:05

    Yop!

    Very good synthesis (this article over the previous one)!
    Being a C1-ist convinced, I'll still enjoy my new PC to get an idea of ​​LR.

    Anyway, for 100 euros, I'll take the C1 THE shortly. Unless my old key is accepted?

    A +
    Tom

15. Joe Says:
    January 11th, 2008 at 3:41

    Hi Benjamin,

    I do not work that Jpeg for reasons of economies of time and space, and reading your articles make me want to move simultaneously in RAW. J uses a Mac with Leopard system, you advise me as program development and RAW processing? (S n we had to choose one that ) Given the principle defined in the latter system OS with most currently available proframmes!?
    Thank you, Joe

16. Benjamin | photob Says:
    January 11th, 2008 at 5:28

    I opened two topics in the forums and Hunter Use Lightroom images to continue the discussion.

    http://www.photim.net/forum/index.php/topic, 6722.0.html

    http://forum.utiliser-lightroom.fr/index.php?topic=184.0

17. Benjamin | photob Says:
    January 11th, 2008 at 5:29

    Joe,

    This depends on your needs and your expectations for my part I am for Capture One V4 Aperture also seems pretty good too

18. jluc Says:
    January 11th, 2008 at 5:39

    For me, after long and varied tests (LR, Capture NX, C1, Aperture)
    Aperture is really the most ergonomic and easy to use. It's a real apple product in its ease of learning and its results seem very good.
    One flaw, he does not read yet the Nef D300 ...

19. Jean-Francois Vibert Says:
    January 11th, 2008 at 6:22

    I think about it on Macandphoto.com:

    http://www.macandphoto.com/2008/01/dfinir-les-para.html

20. Gam Says:
    January 11th, 2008 at 6:59

    Hello Ben

    It should already be noted that LR does not always find the same color temperatures as CP1. Often, there are strong differences result.

    That said, I've always said that LR is nothing but a disguised camera raw ...

21. Jean-Francois Vibert Says:
    January 11th, 2008 at 7:13

    not disguised at all: Lightroom is (officially) ... Adobe Camera Raw

    mixed with Bridge and iView Media Pro!

22. Simon Says:
    January 11th, 2008 at 7:25

    Jean Francois,

    I was reading your post on your Blog, you already réelement opened a portrait with a temperature hot enough in LR and under another soft to compare the rendering of the skin?

    Je suis d'accord sur les photos de paysages, les photos de plongées: LR est excellent mais dès que l'on se penche sur du portrait à forte saturation ou des couleurs chaudes en regardant la différence entre LR et C1 on tombe de sa chaise !

    Fait le test ouvre un portrait assez chaud sous les deux apllis, choisi le même temperature chaude et compare !

23. fu Says:
    janvier 12th, 2008 at 8:08

    Reste Rawshooter essential, que je préfère de loin à LR ou DPP, DPP c'est le pire je trouve,…

24. fu Says:
    janvier 12th, 2008 at 9:18

    Pourquoi ne pas jouer sur les teintes ?

25. Gam Says:
    janvier 29th, 2008 at 10:10

    Il ya aussi une alternative, le fameux Rawtherapee, entièrement gratuit et donnant un développement de tout premier ordre, très proche de NX. Et donc parfois supérieur à Capture One, surtout dans les dégradés. Mais tout comme NX, il souffre, mais à moindre mesure, d'une certaines lenteur.

    La release 2.3 candidate C est disponible sur leur forum. Vivemet que la finale release sorte.

    C'est devenu mon second couteau, après Capture One.

    Lightroom tout comme toi Ben, je m'y fais pas du tout avec sa gestion du rendu, trop hasardeux et souvent, toutes proportions gardées, à des kilomètres de la réalité perçue.

26. IntruX Says:
    février 2nd, 2008 at 5:03

    J'avais aussi constaté ce problème sur tous les produits images Adobe mais j'ai réussi à régler ce problème en selectionnant le bon format d'épreuve.

    En effet, par défaut, les produits Adobe fonctionnent par défaut dans un mode de simulation de rendu afin de rendre au mieux l'étendue des couleurs maximale du fichier source. Malheureusement, si le périphérique de sortie (écran) n'a pas un gammut aussi étendu que le profil de référence de la photo (AdobeRGB1998 contre un simple sRGB pour le gammut de la plupart des écrans), l'affichage de l'écran sera applati dans les couleurs extrèmes et plus particulièrement le rouge.

    ==> Pour corriger ce problème, trois solutions:

    # Soit utiliser un écran qui puisse afficher exactement le même gammut que le gammut de référence de la photo. Malheureusement, même avec un écran widegammut, le gammut de l'écran ne collera pas exactement au gammut AdobeRGB1998 de la photo, il y aura donc encore un écart de rendu “affiché vs réel”.
    L'écart sera tout de même plus faible que si on derawtise une photo AdobeRGB1998 dans un logiciel Adobe affiché sur un écran classique non widegammut.

    # La deuxième solution consiste à limiter toute sa chaîne en sRGB. L'espace de couleur est un peu plus étroit mais il est largement suffisant puisque les labos exécutent leurs tirages grand public dans ce format et que tous les affichages WEB et autres manipulations grand public se font dans ce format.
    Par ailleurs, pas besoin d'un écran de graphiste WideGammut pour utiliser cette solution puisque la plupart des écrans LCD et cathodiques corrects sont prévus pour coller à la norme sRGB. Ainsi, même si on utilise un logiciel qui ne sait pas gérer les profils colorimétriques, l'affichage sera corrects si toute notre chaine est en sRGB (fichiers sources en sRGB, écran classique en sRGB, imprimante ou tireuse en sRGB).

    # La dernière solution, la plus sérieuse et académique, consiste à ne pas afficher ses photos avec le mode d'épreuve par défaut des logiciels Adobe. En fait, quand on développe et retouche ses photos, il faut sélectionner manuellement le format d'épreuve qui correspond au profil de son écran en fonction du gammut qu'il peut afficher. Ainsi, les logiciels adobe vont ajuster les couleurs de l'affichage en fonction de ce que peut afficher l'écran, quitte à adresser jusqu'à saturation certaines couleurs que le moniteur ne peut pas afficher aussi loin que le profil de référence de la photo.
    Avec cette méthode, on peut afficher correctement n'importe quelle photo (quelque soit son profil de référence) sur n'importequel type d'écran (à condition qu'il ait un profil colorimétrique associé).
    Malheureusement, cette méthoe nécessite d'avoir un profil calibré spécifique à son écran (et qui tient donc compte du gammut affichable).
    => C'est seulement avec cette troisième méthode qui nécessite un profil calibré qu'on aura un rendu d'affichage conforme et calibré avec les logiciels adobe. Malheureusement, ce que je ne comprends pas, c'est que ce format d'épreuve (celui du moniteur) n'est pas activé par défaut et qu'il faut le changer manuellement alors que les dérawtiseursdes autres éditeurs l'intègrent bien par défaut.
    Cela pourrait s'expliquer par le fait que la méthode de format d'épreuve par défaut Adobe fonctionne mieux avec les moniteurs qui ne disposent pas d'un profil spécifique mais pour les “experts” qui calibrent tous leurs écrans, c'est assez fastidieux de devoir changer le profil d'épreuve à chaque fois pour avoir un rendu conforme.

27. JohnD Says:
    février 3rd, 2008 at 4:07

    Concernant le commentaire précédant, selon ma compréhension, je tiens à préciser 2-3 choses.

    Le mode épreuve (soft proofing) n'est pas là pour corriger l'affichage de l'écran mais pour simuler une sortie.

    Par exemple, en utilisant le profil d'un papier pour une imprimante donnée, on peut simuler la perte de saturation, le contraste, la couleur du papier,… et réaliser des corrections afin que la sortie ressemble le plus possible à l'image d'origine sur l'écran. De la qualité du profil dépend directement, la qualité de l'épreuvage. De l'impression aussi bien sûr.

    Cette fonction est attendue dans LR mais existe dans Photoshop. Cela évite de faire des impressions “pour essayer”.

    Concernant l'écran, lorsque que vous créer un profil pour celui-ci avec une sonde, il est utilisé par le système d'exploitation (ou auparavant Adobe Gamma) pour adapter l'espace de couleur de l'image affichée dans l'espace de couleur de l'écran. Là aussi, selon la qualité du profil et les capacités de l'écran, le résultat est plus ou moins bon.

    Pour avoir plus d'informations tout cela et plein d'autres choses, je vous conseille de regarder la video From Camera to Print de l'excellent site Luminous Landscape :

    http://luminous-landscape.com/videos/camera-print.shtml

28. IntruX Says:
    février 3rd, 2008 at 6:09

    Je pense bien savoir de quoi je parle, d'où mon incompréhension du comportement des logiciels adobe concernant l'affichage des photos.

    Par défaut, ce sont les seuls logiciels à ne pas afficher leur rendu correctement en tenant compte du profil calibré, et pourtant, ils n'utilisent pas l'overlay pour afficher l'image (car l'overlay ne passe pas par le profil de couleur que l'OS charge au démarrage).

    Comme je l'ai bien précisé, le seul moyen de ne pas avoir des couleurs afichées différentes avec un écran calibré sous les logiciels adobe est de “forcer” un format d'épreuve qui correspond à son écran…même si à l'origine, ce n'est peut être pas prévu pour ça.

29. JohnD Says:
    février 3rd, 2008 at 7:37

    IntruX, mon intention n'était pas de suggérer que tu ne savais pas de quoi tu parlais.

    Peux-tu me donner l'une ou l'autre source qui m'aiderait à comprendre pourquoi PS ne fait pas de soft proof pour l'écran par défaut. Je n'ai jamais eu l'occasion de lire un livre ou un article qui expose cela. Thank you in advance.

    Currently my little graphic string is configured as what I learned after multiple sources. Unfortunately, I never had the opportunity to read this type of setup does not allow optimal performance of displays. Unfortunately (2), it is not known to apply this to Lightroom.

30. IntruX Says:
    February 3rd, 2008 at 10:05

    Well, I have no specific links to give you but there are probably hundreds by searching google. Many users have a different view in Photoshop and apply the format appropriate to the test screen to have a consistent display. -That said, in my box using Adobe CS2, maybe other versions allow you to apply a permanent print format.

    Otherwise, the most obvious is to check my statements to test yourself: you will find that the display of any photo in a photo software adobe will not consider the calibrated profile of the screen. The image will be displayed differently than in other imaging software, or in the office envirronement if one has a "loader Profile" at startup (such as "adobe gamma" for a profile done by hand, or " LacieLoader "for a probe Lacie, etc. ..).
    By cons, if you apply the test format that matches your screen you will find the same record as in all other programs.

31. Gam Says:
    February 3rd, 2008 at 10:35

    IntruX you confuse screen profile and output profile. The soft proofing is used to simulate a test print and not to show profile screen that is already active by default on the system.

    I've never had a soft difference to the other or both MacOSX XP.

    If you display the soft proofing with the profile of your screen, everything is distorted.

32. JohnD Says:
    February 3rd, 2008 at 11:13

    IntruX, on my Mac, I have no difference whatever the app.

    As for the link, I already started looking and reading from what I knew already and that reinforces my setup, I did nothing to invite me to try the soft proofing "screen". Especially since you can earn and use the soft proof to evaluate an output, the first function.

    I had the opportunity to read many books and articles from the pros (Bruse Fraser, Amadou Diallo, Martin Evening, Michael Reichmann, ...). No books specifically colorimetry, it is true, but none raised the issue. Certainly this does not make me an authority on the subject and I can well understand evil, that's why I wanted to have a link explaining that.

33. IntruX Says:
    February 4th, 2008 at 2:41

    Precisely, the "profile" screen is not active by default in photoshop unlike all other applications.

    Or Adobe has changed its operation since PhotoshopCS2.
    Indeed, my job, using CS2 and it is the graphic of my box which I noted that I had to test selects the format of my screen so the picture is displayed correctly as in the office environment or other software.

    At first I was skeptical because I thought that with the implementation of a loader at boot time, there was no need to change anything in Photoshop so that the minutes be calibrated. Unfortunately, I saw that it was not the case with adobe products.
    Then, the designer of my box which is secured in this domain particulièrmeent explained to me that most photo software seriously bypassaient profile screen loaded by the OS to implement their own system. Thus, in CaptureNX, if desired, one can choose a different monitor profile even if the default is the same as Windows is loaded.

    As for the difference display of Adobe products default compared to other programs, it is not visible when working on classic images in sRGB, it becomes obvious by cons on images AdobeRGB1998.

    ==> I invite you to take the test then this is where you process the designers of my box of liars

34. Gam Says:
    February 4th, 2008 at 3:27

    But on that asset, removes it and you vera Unlike gamut, white point, black point and other majors.

    I bump into the studio for over 15 years, I never used the soft proofing, prepress similar at all I know.

    The app profing is only useful when your profile image (dedicated to printing) does not match the output device.

    In short you do wrong ...

35. IntruX Says:
    February 4th, 2008 at 24:10

    Nan, nan

    My colleagues work like that all their photos they then incorporate into their websites (I work in a box that makes web design). If they do not work based rendering with "color test" in photoshop, their pictures are different from what will appear in the envirronnement office, in a web browser, or on the client machine.

    I know what I mean. Moreover, seen as you assert, is that you did not test what I said. I guarantee that by default, photos are displayed differently in Windows and Adobe software.

    At no time do I change the reference space or the workspace of my photos. I only specify the monitor profile Photoshop. By default, "Proof Colors" are RGB / Windows and need to switch to RGB / monitor so that the picture appears as it would display correctly on any other computer.

    In fact, I do not think adobe software do not use the profile monitor calibration default, I just think they use it differently, hence the necessity to visualize the result in "colors of tests "to have this correspondence with the rest of the envirronement office or with other software images.
    Then we could yet another display rendering to simulate a print rendering, but that's another problem.

    ==> Too bad for you if you do not believe me, it will only penalize you in how you use Adobe software.
    Presonnellement because I do not really think LightRoom or CAB interpret the pictures with less red .... they just do not display them in the right way because the screen uses a LKV calibrated monitor profile.
    Moreover, it is not only the red is less intense, they are ALL the colors that are flattened except that here is seen especially in the red (for proof, on the example of LKV with the dog, it is clear that green grass is also less intense).

36. Gam Says:
    February 4th, 2008 at 8:59

    It's not that we believe you. It speaks to you from our experience, for me it is in the field of advertising and printing pro.

    I know a lot of users have issues with Windows profiles, among other PCQ they do not disable Adobe Gamma with their probe.

    Personally, I have zero problems. Under XP, my chain graph is flawless. As well as the XP viewer, as in Photoshop, Capture One, RawTherapee or NX and others.

    For red ACR, LR and yes, it is the engine of development. The temperatures are not at all with the same soft sharp. Nothing to do with the display. For proof, look at the screen of Ben, it runs under a browser and not in RS, and yet the differences are obvious, but has the same profile

37. fu Says:
    February 11th, 2008 at 2:42

    And your lab, he works with what profile? and feel how it is coming out? Chemistry, you know you chemistry lab brol brol gizmo or bazaar? It parireait although with the same profile, you will have the same paper two different events, we test?

38. Gam Says:
    February 11th, 2008 at 10:46

    Obviously we will have different impressions of one lab to another, even on the same machine type with the same profile.

    It comes from the simple fact that the machines are rarely calibrated properly. Any edge of a technician knowing his job, secondly with the material he must probe, charter etc ...) and a third times a month.

39. fu Says:
    February 12th, 2008 at 11:31

    does not seek so far Gam, just think the chemistry machines, two minutes you forget your technologies and calibrations brol bazard ..

    Go to a lab, go back a week later or two, I'll bet you never twice the same image, it will perhaps very close, but not ideetiques ...

    To get the same edition: should a similar chemistry, a émultion identical, the same exposure no variation even half a second ...

    Far off the labs continue to use silver paper for printing papers is a link in the chaînne rarely addressed.
    Unless you have your own digital lab (including printer so) it is impossible to control all pramètres ...

    a + + +

40. Luis Says:
    March 2nd, 2008 at 11:22

    Hello, very interesting about this Ben. I too found this problem in mind the only one. Finally it is not the case .

    I just bought adobe photoshop and I perceive the same problem. It uses Camera Raw 4.2 for processing raw files.

    So I'll keep using Capture One LE for deRawtiser my photos, it offers a good compromise .

41. Gam Says:
    March 14th, 2008 at 8:57

    fu

    If you humps with a good lab results-oriented requested by the customer, there is no problem.

42. photob.be | Benjamin BROLET | Photographer Brussels 2007 »Blog Archive» Grey sky and slips Says:
    April 1st, 2008 at 5:12

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43. Vinz Says:
    April 2nd, 2008 at 5:32

    The comments are very interesting Intrux, but I think there is huge confusion-confusion-

    As he said himself he works in a box of webdesign and graphic of the box using this technique (a soft proofing toshop under the profile of the screen as output profile) to see what will the images IN A BROWSER .

    This technique is actually perfect, but just to see what will give an image in a browser that can not handle color. (Except for ages safari and firefox 3 beta I think). That's what these designers, and they are right to do this.

    This is exactly the same as with a print profile (I always do this but with my print profiles or those of my lab)

    Now, picture, (we do not intend to use web) and use a calibrated monitor with photoshop, this technique is worth avoiding! It only allows to visualize what a displayed image without color management ON ITS OWN COMPUTER (on everyone else, it will be different, it is no secret if you want the same display, you need a calibrated monitor the manager AND a soft color management)

    PS: there is often confusion with the color profiles screen: those they have two parts, the first, gamma curves, which are loaded into the LUTs on startup (via a windows bootloader or via colorsync for OSX).

    => This is a color correction performed in hardware. It achieves the color temp and gamma chosen during calibration

    The second part is a standard ICC profile that characterizes the color space of the screen, its gamut. The probe allows to map that corrects wholesale deviations of particular colors. With this second part, further refines the color accuracy.

    => Correction made in software then only by the color manager apps. (Photoshop in part, a web browser like internet explorer not.)

    And when I say manage the color, I'm talking about an app that manages both the profile of the screen (the famous second part of the profile, different from what is loaded at startup) and the profile of the image ( AdobeRGB, sRGB, etc ....).

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46. Patrice H Says:
    April 24th, 2008 at 9:53

    Hello Benjamin,

    You will find an article on the new fotopassion on ACR4.4 available on the latest version of LightRoom.

    A test so ...

47. philippe | photofloue Says:
    April 24th, 2008 at 24:36

    I just did some comparative testing files from Nikon. Nave opened with the default settings and exported by Lightroom and Bibble Lite.

    The result:
    - Photos 1 and 2 (sea cliffs in the afternoon): made it more flattering (+ red) in Bibble
    - Photo 3: sunset: better at LR when the sun is an orange where the sun is Bibble tomato
    - Photo 4: stone house lit by the setting sun: better in LR, large dominant magenta in Bibble
    - Photo 5: Close up of fern faded early in the day: more flattering in Bibble, but subtler LR
    - Photo 6: branches at sunset: RS displays a histogram that does not go black, unlike Bibble. Once mounted in the black RS, diagnosis as on picture 5
    - Photo 7: beached boat, light after sunset very sweet: Bibble more saturated and black, LR gives a more natural interpretation

    Conclusion arithmetic tie.

    Conclusion photography: photos why Bibble was better were not dramatic in LR. Bibble instead abyss two images.
    Where one could blame her yellow cast LR, one might criticize his Bibble dominant magenta.
    The bias of LR seems to be more neutral, while Bibble promotes development more flattering (ditto minilabs).
    What seems important is that the raw (at least a few) developed LR give more latitude to work than those of Bibble: It is always easier to climb than to descend densities.

48. Gilles Says:
    April 24th, 2008 at 12:44

    The problem of red comes right motor current Lr / ACr.
    Adobe is well aware and working on the solution.

    Cdlt, Gilles.

49. Gilles Says:
    April 24th, 2008 at 24:46

    Phil is absolutely right, the purpose of Lr / Acr is neutrality.

    Gilles.

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51. philippe | photofloue Says:
    April 25th, 2008 at 9:02

    For reference, I have just published the photos on test photofloue.net .

52. Jaly Says:
    April 25th, 2008 at 10:25

    Hello,
    Therefore, compliance is through color temperature
    and as it goes at full speed
    and how to know if I am in tune?
    OF 1200K to 7000K, which is good?
    I do not get it is it the software that fixes everything?

53. Gilles Says:
    April 25th, 2008 at 10:47

    If you mean the problem of red, it has nothing to do with the color temperature but the way the engine ACR / Lr the interpreter.

54. Jaly Says:
    April 25th, 2008 at 11:07

    uh oh lala, must be computer scientist today to be amateur photographer.

55. Benjamin | photob Says:
    April 25th, 2008 at 11:20

    Jaly, not specifically, say that you simply more opportunities for interpretations of the same image but nothing prevents you from working in Jpeg

56. Patrice H Says:
    April 28th, 2008 at 12:35

    Pfff,

    I tested with Lr 2.0 ACR 4.4, it is always the same thing regarding the rendering of warm and saturated. Disappointing ... Some pictures of witnesses http://www.flickr.com/photos/patrice_h/sets/72157604763195223/show/

57. Gilles Says:
    April 28th, 2008 at 12:38

    Lr 2.0 is a beta, the final version of the engine will not ACR 4.4 ...

58. Patrice Says:
    May 18th, 2008 at 1:47

    Hello,

    Just to tell you that indeed will LR2.0 another engine conversion and it seems that Adobe will consider complaints from users a report accusing him yellow warm tones (like Benjamin). Here is the link on the subject: http://www.utiliser-lightroom.fr/2008/05/14/colorimetrie-camera-raw-lightroom-bientot-du-nouveau/

    Otherwise the new version of Capture One 4.1 is available: http://www.lemondedelaphoto.com/Capture-One-passe-a-la-version-4-1, 1256.html

59. photob.be | Benjamin BROLET | Photographer Brussels »Blog Archive» Lightroom 2.0 and the warm tones Says:
    August 4th, 2008 at 2:36

    [...] Already tested previous versions of LR still a big problem with the rendering of skin tones and mainly the fact that RS was not in my opinion (based on the number [...]

60. PIR2 Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 9:11

    Hello,

    Maybe a little update and feeling with your profile and Adobe LR2 beta2?

    Stone

61. Benjamin | photob Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 10:28

    PIR2: yes done http://www.photob.be/2008/08/04/lightroom-20-et-les-tons-chauds/

62. PIR2 Says:
    October 6th, 2008 at 12:54

    Well, I'll remove the date of my favorites, your blog should be more active in my eyes.

    

63. Warm tones in Lightroo, Aperture & Capture One | NE Photographs Says:
    May 6th, 2009 at 24:17

    [...] Benjamin had already observed this phenomenon with his Nikon Capture One and Lightroom face. (Read here and here) [...]

64. william.blake Says:
    July 10th, 2010 at 5:51

    Hello,
    Have you found a solution to your problem?
    As it must do well two years I galley with the problem of skin tones, especially in photo together, until I realize that lightroom has a big problem with that ...
    And I did not really want to spend two years to relearn another program ...

65. Yann Bush Says:
    August 26th, 2011 at 12:56

    Uh all this only occurs when using the calibration of Adobe Camera Raw which is really strange . Adobe Standard with no problem , Or a profile associated with your camera (on my Canon Camera Std, Camera Faithful, Camera Neutral, Camera Landscape).

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